Westminster 2009 February 9-10 [Archive] - Dog Show News Network Forums

Elaine

02-05-2009, 08:51 AM

Westminster 2009
Monday and Tuesday, February 9-10, 2009
Madison Square Garden

Individual breed judging will take place each day between the hours of 8:00AM and 6PM.

All Hound, Terrier, Non-Sporting and Herding breeds and varieties will be judged on Monday, with Groups judged on Monday evening.

All Sporting, Working, and Toy breeds and varieties will be judged on Tuesday, with Groups judged on Tuesday evening. Best In Show will also be judged on Tuesday evening.

All Junior Showmanship preliminaries will be judged on Monday afternoon, with the finals to be held at 7:30PM on Tuesday evening.

170 Breeds and Varieties will be judged in seven different groups during the day Monday and Tuesday*.

Well, it’s that time again… time to open up the old wallet, drag out the gowns and furs… stuff yourself into some body shapers and hit the parties in New York. Or, you can save yourself from the cold and ice, the crowds, the overpriced hotels with no towels or toilet paper… kick the dog off the couch and stay warm and cozy in your own living room watching the Groups and Best on T.V.

I’ve done both, each has allure… this year I expect to be on the phone with Julie and Merrilee sharing the evening in a tradition that started back the early 1980’s.

The beauty of watching Westminster in T.V. is that you get close-ups, great camera angles (though the dogs always look like they are side-winding, when many are not) and you get instant replay. But best of all, you get DAVE FREI.

I’ve known Dave Frei forever. Anyone who knows Dave will agree, he is the best ambassador for our sport to ever come down the pike. Seems to me he’s been doing the telecast for two decades now. He presents our sport in an informed and positive manner. He can be funny or restrained depending on the situation. Dave never looses his composure and never fails to put a warm fuzzy spin on what's going on in the ring. He is calm and unflappable in a crisis that would reduce the rest of us to jelly. Years ago a German Shorthaired Pointer took a dump in the ring at the end of her down and back. Stopped the show... right there on National Television… in front of the judge, god and country, a dog, doing what dogs “doo.” The dog was clearly stressed, things were loose, you could almost smell it through the camera. Seems like it went on forever and the camera men were doing close ups of the dog and the product. The handler was bright pink, the judge was about the same. Joe Garagiola (who was Dave’s side kick at the time) almost fell on the floor laughing. Not Dave, he remained calm, even had a funny anecdote about how it’d happened to us all.

Now I ask you, how many commentators have the poise to pull that off? If YouTube had been around back then the clip of that would have been a huge hit.

So, what will happen this year? Who will win your favorite breed? I suspect the Reigny has a very good shot at the Breed in Dobermans… and that the Giant Schnauzer has a good shot at going Best… but there are always surprises at the Garden.

Karolynne McAteer (who is a dear friend of a dear friend), is involved with producing the streaming video of the breed judging from the Garden. You will be able to watch the Breed judging of many breeds during the day at a link on the Westminster website. This link has all the information on the show. Enjoy.

http://www.westminsterkennelclub.org/

Elaine

02-07-2009, 11:16 AM

here is a link to CNBC's coverage of Westminster

http://www.cnbc.com/id/28578757/

Elaine

02-09-2009, 04:53 PM

Just watched the Mini-Bull Terrier judging... and I see that they have Irish Wolfhounds ready on video...and Diego won the breed in Tibetian Spaniels.

http://www.westminsterkennelclub.org/

jkf

02-10-2009, 12:00 AM

Elaine

02-10-2009, 06:46 AM

Hounds: Scottish Deerhound ~ Ch Gayleward's Tiger Woods Dog, #2 Scottish Deerhound in the country, whelped January 11, 2002; Breeder/ owner: Gayle Bontecou. Ms. Bontecou has just about done it all in dogs. She's judged the Group at the Garden (1992), now she's won the Group at the Garden, only one thing left to check off her list.

Sporting:

Working:

Terriers: Scottish Terrier ~ Ch Roundtown Mercedes Of Maryscot bitch, Number 7 All Breed and #2 Terrier in the country, whelped April 02, 2005, Breeder: Mary O'Neal & Anstamm Kennel, owner Amelia Musser. Its been 13 years (back to 1995, Peggy Sue with Maripi) since a Scottie went BIS at the Garden.

Toys:

Non Sporting: Standard Poodle ~ Ch Randenn Tristar Affirmation, bitch, Number 6 All-Breed and #1 Non Sporting dog in the country, whelped January 31, 2003, Breeder: Randy E Garren & Dennis McCoy & Joe & Joan Lacey, Owner: Toni Sosnoff & Martin Sosnoff. This bitch has the entire package of pedigree, handler, breeders and owners... might finally be her year.

Herding: Puli ~ Ch Cordmaker Field Of Dreams, dog, #2 Herding dog, whelped March 30, 2004, Breeder: P Turner & A Quigley & A & S Lawrence, Owner: Susan Huebner & Jackie Beaudoin. Ann and Pat have been in the Group ring many times before, with their Komondors (Ch Lajosmegyi Dahu Digal in the early 1990s and his descendants) and with their Puil's. Dottie and Chet Collier were close to Ann and Pat. Chet’s gone now… but maybe some of that good will still lingers in the building.

The Affenpinscher ~ Ch Tamarin Tug or the Brussels Griffons ~ Ch Cilleine Masquerade should win the Toy Group.

I see the BIS competition as being between the Giant Schnauzer ~ CH Galilee’s Pure Of Spirit and the Pointer ~ CH Cookieland Seasyde Hollyberry. Both have yet to be judged at the Garden in 2009. Each still has to get through their Breed rings and then their Group... I see the Giant standing alone in the BIS ring at the end of the night. My outside favorite is the Scottie. The surprise winner would be the Puli (which Sari may like, it might remind her of a really big Lhasa)... way outside, huge surprise, longest odds of the night would be the Deerhound.

As for my breed, I see Reigny winning the breed, but not going much further. The Giant has something like 71 Best In Shows and 140 Group Is. Reigny has 13 Bests. But, and there is always a but, after the Giant, the Working Group gets pretty weak, so Reigny may be able to pull something off. If the Giant gets beat in the Breed (and pigs fly), then Reigny has a chance. I should probably mention that Reigny is a full sister to Lil' Claire's mother. http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp21/logresfarm/winkgrin-1.gif

Elaine

02-10-2009, 08:16 AM

Elaine:
Merr and I will call tomorrow night. I think Merr will be her. she is sick. But the show must go on!!
I liked the little seylman terrier. I spelled that wrong. Love that little dog. I liked the little smooth fox also. But what in the hell do I know about terriers!:p I like the standard poodle also. But isn't that what it is all about? Sitting on your sofa and giving your own blow by blow of what you think? God knows we did that together for years. That is one thing I really really miss.!
I read all about Clair. Glad she is on the mend. But what a damn nightrmare. I'm so glad one of my best friends is a vet. I don't know what I would do without her!
until tomorrow night.
JUlie
Sorry that Merrilee isn’t feeling well. She picked the wrong time to get sick.

I'll be here when you call... hors d’oeuvres ready (btw, what are you serving?).

I have my spies on the floor of the Garden, ready to pass along any juicy tidbits. Only problem is, we've all gotten so old, none of us notice what the heck is going on, in or out of the ring :( …just ask Tina.:D

Still, it will be fun.

And while we can still locomotate (my word, don’t bother to look it up), one of us needs to win a breed at the Garden while Dave is still doing the commentary so that he can finally announce, “Hey, I know that old geezer in the ring out there, the one that just tripped over her dog.” http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp21/logresfarm/lol-1.gif If I remember correctly, that has been "the dream" since about 1983 when Chris went BIS with Pepsi. I'm ready to put Betty on Warkant, and E2 on Halla... I'll show Titan, Bob and Cheryl can show Pagan and the Green Girl, Jan can show Baby Zee, Andy can show Eva and we'll dazzle 'em with our style and flare. You and Merr can come too. You show Flip... Merr can show Claire (they should both be healed by then)... maybe no one will notice that Flip, Halla and Claire are not finished. We'll put the FUN back in showing dogs. http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp21/logresfarm/yes-1.gif

dobesign

02-10-2009, 10:37 AM

Hey, I'm in the Old Geezer Club too, remember? Faith said she'd show, and Moose says she'll go in and run backwards:eek:, which is what we ALWAYS do in the ring.

Elaine

02-10-2009, 11:17 AM

Hey, I'm in the Old Geezer Club too, remember? Faith said she'd show, and Moose says she'll go in and run backwards:eek:, which is what we ALWAYS do in the ring.

Sorry Brenna, you don't belong in our group. http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp21/logresfarm/no.gif You've actually finished dogs won the Breed in Dobermans, more than once, you're overqualified. http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp21/logresfarm/lol-1.gif

Dobes show at 10:45 (just started) Here's the catalog/entry http://www.infodog.com/RESULTS/2009123701/200912370134200.HTM Rush and Garbo are entered.... so are Sobe, and two of his littermates... Michelle is not entered this year..

Pointers show at 11:30 and Giants show at 12:45. It takes the video team about two hours to get the breed video online… it will be at this link when they do. http://www.westminsterkennelclub.org/2009/video/breed/index.html I don't see anything up from today yet.

Results for today's judging so far are here. Linda Krukar won the breed in German Pinschers http://www.westminsterkennelclub.org/2009/results/breed/bob2.html

Elaine

02-10-2009, 11:48 AM

While waiting for Dobes I was watching Pembrokes ... Bill Shelton's bitch is stunning… really stunning, even though she seemed to be a bit off and went BOS.

Elaine

02-10-2009, 12:54 PM

The judge, Betty Leininger gave Reigny (Ch. Cambria's Victoria Secret) the Breed. Sobe (Ch. Phillmar Sobe Monster) was BOS. Ms. Leininger gave Awards of Merit to Ch Foxfire's Triple X and Ch Sun Style's Sensation (who I believe was shown by Leininger's ex- husband Jeff Brucker).

RonBabics

02-10-2009, 01:03 PM

Congrats to Tony and Sheila and Jim and Ann.

I would not discount Reigny in the group. It would be an upset beating the Giant but the lineup is right if she is really on. Will be interesting to see what happens tonight.

Ron

Elaine

02-10-2009, 01:13 PM

Given how the Working Group is going so far, I can see her going Gr II, but I don't see her beating the Giant... Paula gave Reigny the Breed at the Garden last year, she likes the bitch, but she also seems to like the McFadden's and she seems to be able to find the Top Winning dog if it's in her ring. We'll have to wait and see. It will be interesting. Btw, who showed Rush? Tracy or Michelle? Can't wait to see the video of the breed judging.

Elaine

02-10-2009, 01:35 PM

Results are on for Pointers, CH Cookieland Seasyde Hollyberry the #2 All Breed and #1 Sporting dog in the country, with 117,045 points, 96 Best in Shows, 164 Group I wasn't even entered... so now the Sporting Group is up for grabs. We'd heard about an "event" last year at the Garden that might explain this... but we're not in the loop to comment. further. http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp21/logresfarm/rolleyes.gif

RonBabics

02-10-2009, 01:51 PM

I "think" Michelle showed Rush, or at least she was scheduled to. Not sure though.

The working group will be interesting. Obviously the Giant is the favorite but it will be interesting to see what happens. Diego has a very pretty Boxer bitch he is just starting and might be in contention for a 3 or 4.

Elaine

02-10-2009, 02:09 PM

Diego has a very pretty Boxer bitch he is just starting and might be in contention for a 3 or 4. Have only seen the photo of her, http://www.westminsterkennelclub.org/2009/photos/breed/WS25654001.html she looks lovely (and Pat wouldn't be on her if she wasn't very good).. but she is not yet two years old. Still, Diego's been there before with a young dog in the group at the Garden and done alright. It'd sure be a thrill if he went all the way with her, but I agree, Gr 3 or 4.

Here is a link to video of the breed judging http://video.westminsterkennelclub.org/player/?id=1006341

Edited to add, I just watched the Boxer ring video. There is a huge emphasis on the head's in Boxers, and you really can't see the heads and expressions all that well on the video, but if Diego's bitch shows in the Group like she did in the Breed, she will be phenomenal. Holy Cow!!! He has got to be thrilled with how she did.

Btw, was that Gary Steele's daughter in the cream suit with the Brindle bitch that got an Award of Merit?

Elaine

02-10-2009, 02:29 PM

Ch Galilee's Pure Of Spirit just won the breed in Giants. She was the #1 All Breed in the country in 2008, #1 Working Dog, with 117,770 points over all, 71 Best in Shows and 140 Group Is.

Ch Cilleine Masquerade just won the breed in Brussels Griffons. He is the # 4 dog All Breed and the #2 Toy Dog in the country with 42 Best in Shows and 104 Group I and 66,191 pts.

Ch Tamarin Tug just won the breed in Affenpinschers. He is the # 3 dog in the country All Breed and the #1 Toy Dog with 72,177 points, with 44 Best in Shows and 125 Group Is.

doberdogsfd

02-10-2009, 04:15 PM

The bitch is beautiful and then their is Diego on the end of the leash...who could ask for more!
She stood out in that breed ring.....just a stunning bitch.

We are cheering for you my friend!
Cheryl

Elaine

02-10-2009, 04:23 PM

I think the Boxer bitch opens things up bit, though most would probably say that she's young and it's just not her time yet. Frankly, I'd love to see a long-shot blow past everyone else. The very best part of Westminster is that there are always surprises (and yet not). I may get struck down for saying this (won't be the first time), but if we all said a prayer, something good could happen.. a long shot might go all the way. :)

And speaking of going to hell, a friend just called from the Garden.. his take is that Timmy Braizier's Standard Poodle will go Best. "He's due."

andyhilt27

02-10-2009, 05:41 PM

I'm ready to put Betty on Warkant, and E2 on Halla... I'll show Titan, Bob and Cheryl can show Pagan and the Green Girl, Jan can show Baby Zee, Andy can show Eva and we'll dazzle 'em with our style and flare. You and Merr can come too. You show Flip... Merr can show Claire (they should both be healed by then)... maybe no one will notice that Flip, Halla and Claire are not finished. We'll put the FUN back in showing dogs. http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp21/logresfarm/yes-1.gif

Tabitha may have something in her belly right now that may deserve to be shown at the Garden.....I won't be on the other end of the lead though.:D
My coworkers would never let me hear the end of me showing a dog smaller than a cat.

Elaine

02-10-2009, 11:02 PM

As for my breed, I see Reigny winning the breed, but not going much further. The Giant has something like 71 Best In Shows and 140 Group Is. Reigny has 13 Bests. But, and there is always a but, after the Giant, the Working Group gets pretty weak, so Reigny may be able to pull something off. If the Giant gets beat in the Breed (and pigs fly), then Reigny has a chance. I should probably mention that Reigny is a full sister to Lil' Claire's mother. http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp21/logresfarm/winkgrin-1.gif

Well pigs didn't fly. the Giant won the Working Group and the Boxer bitch of Diego's went Gr II... followed by the Alaskan Malamute and the Tibetan Mastiff .

Elaine

02-10-2009, 11:24 PM

and the Sussex went Best and as Julie just said. "I'm not watching this anymore!!!" and she turned off the T.V.http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp21/logresfarm/lol-1.gif

Can't say any of us saw that coming.

For what it's worth, we thought the Poodle sparkled.... oh well, there's always next year (except Julie and I are not watching this anymore). Oh and, the Sussex is owned by one of our MCKC members, so CONGRATULATIONS to Beth Dowd. Wonder what her "BRAG" will be at the next club meeting? http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp21/logresfarm/lol-1.gif

doberdogsfd

02-10-2009, 11:49 PM

The Sussex came out of retirement for this, right?

I frankly thought the Giant had it over them all in BIS.

Love, love that boxer bitch!! Very pretty!

CB

Elaine

02-11-2009, 06:44 AM

The Sussex came out of retirement for this, right?

I frankly thought the Giant had it over them all in BIS.

Love, love that boxer bitch!! Very pretty!

CB

I agree that the Boxer bitch is lovely. For those of us who’d never seen her before, I think we all saw her quality on the video of the breed judging yesterday, you'd have to be blind to miss her. This is a good beginning of the year for her, Diego should be able to convert the Gr II into some nice wins in the year to come. His problem (if you want to call it a problem), is that he now has 3 Specials in the Working Group and it's just him and Eve. They need a kid for back up. http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp21/logresfarm/yes-1.gif

About BIS, supposedly Stump was retired in 2004… something like that, but what exactly did he retire from? I’m not clear. What exactly does a Sussex like Stump do, except sit around the house looking cute while Scott is away showing dogs? http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp21/logresfarm/rolleyes.gif

Anyway… supposedly about 5 days ago Scott decided that he’d have one last go ‘round at the Garden. It’s a cute story… Americans love a cute story. How Sari can say this is the best Sussex, or more precisely, the best in her line up last night is a bit beyond me (after all, how many Sussex Spaniels have any of us seen to know the difference between what’s “great” and what’s just “moderately good”), but Stump is adorable and he will be a media darling for the next year.

Not to take anything away from Stump (who is not reading this), but I was wondering if Sari couldn’t decide between the Poodle and the Giant and just went some other way rather than make enemies. Supposedly that’s happened before at the Garden… at this point only Sari knows why she did what she did.

I’d love this win a whole lot more if Stump came from a modest owner / handler background… some poor folks who bred the dog and who've just lost their jobs and scrapped together their last nickels to get to the Garden... but that script is never played out at the Garden. Stump is backed by two of the most successful backers in dogs ~ Cece Ruggles and Beth Dowd. They've had a string of top winning dogs every year for years now. Just off the top of my head, recently it's been the top Irish Terrier of All Time, a National Specialty winning Bischon, a top Corgi, a top Clumber Spaniel... I think they have a Lakeland Special out and Beth even backed a Boxer a few years ago… heck, they’ve been in contention at the Garden more than just about anyone I can think of… so it’s not a “rags to riches” story… it’s more like a “very privileged to even more privileged” story. http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp21/logresfarm/lol-1.gif

Jan

02-11-2009, 07:54 AM

Loved the boxer, and Stump is cute, I was smiling to see he's a 1998 model! If this is starting a trend, I'll dust Ziggy off, and have E1 bring her in the ring!
I did think the poodle sparkled.
Jan

Elaine

02-11-2009, 08:10 AM

... I was smiling to see he's a 1998 model! If this is starting a trend, I'll dust Ziggy off, and have E1 bring her in the ring!
Jan

Great idea... let's talk to Beth about it at the next meeting :D

Kissntell

02-11-2009, 03:01 PM

I watched the groups and noticed this dog Stump.

What I noticed was that when he went back to the waiting group of dogs he turned somewhat stiffly on his rear. Then they announced that he was 10 years old; and, I thought what in the world are people bringing a 10 year old out for? He certainly did not like turning, when few were watching that is. He's age showed in the rear.

I thought that this move may be in fact for pure greed. I became suspecious right off. This is pure oddity.

I have noticed further that when they are interviewing the dog and handler, at least on Good Morning America that the dog does not want to remain in the stand and wants to sit continualy.

BIS judge says she did not know the dog was 10 years old. Please tell me that the dog world does not know the dog world. This has been discussed over and over.

Which is why I continue to say that people are not doing this for the love but the dollars in the end. To qualify this further, I am not saying the little guys, which most of those who post on this forum really are. I am talking about the big people who breed many dogs. You all really know who I am talking about.

Just my opinion and what I saw.

Now to the Boxer bitch...wow what a nice bitch. And, Diego does a wonderful job.

So tell me again...does the dog world not know the players? Everyone who knows the dog world was watching...and believe me, I did not need to be told who the handlers were at least in my breed/group.

Insodently, Reiney did not even get looked at. So I believe that the Group judge has their favorite breeds. She got a real brush over.

Just my opinion again.

doberdogsfd

02-11-2009, 04:09 PM

JMO.....but I believe Reiny's movement doesn't deserve a look. The bitch is very pretty stacked, as soon as she moves the picture falls apart.
Have you ever seen her in person? I have. Did you see her on the down and back in the breed?

I believe the best dogs were placed in working. That Giant is really a beautiful bitch with excellent side gait. Perhaps E 1 can weigh in a bit on that, she knows a good Giant.

Just another day at a dog show....take it as it rolls!
Cheryl

Kissntell

02-11-2009, 04:33 PM

I admit I've never seen her move nor seen her in person. She doesn't come to the West Coast. (That I've seen her)

I have seen and had my hands on some of the Hallmark of the Breed, such as Marienburg's Sun Hawk and Marienburg's Repo Man. They were dogs to talk about of which everybody knows.

I will never forget what Moe looked like in the 70's when I first met him. When Sun Hawk came to the ring it was like everybody moved over here came the great... He was good in his day.

That dates me...and also says that I am a little guy in the breed. Actually, I'm almost to the point of "what's the use?" A nobody can get nowhere handler or not. It really boils down to how much money do you have, or want to spend.

andyhilt27

02-11-2009, 05:54 PM

Elaine

02-11-2009, 05:59 PM

So tell me again...does the dog world not know the players? Everyone who knows the dog world was watching...and believe me, I did not need to be told who the handlers were at least in my breed/group.

Insodently, Reiney did not even get looked at. So I believe that the Group judge has their favorite breeds. She got a real brush over.

Just my opinion again.

You saw what was shown on T.V. there is more that goes on then what makes it to the screen. I promise you Reigny got a good look. The judge made up her mind based on what she saw, it doesn’t take more than a moment to evaluate the dog. The owner/handler package with Stump, Spirit or Yes was no more or less "political” than the owner /handler package with Reigny. I suspect that the judge knew what she was looking at, a pretty free stack in a small breed ring is just not enough for the Group, especially not for the big Group ring at the Garden.

Elaine

02-11-2009, 06:03 PM

I thought that this move may be in fact for pure greed. I became suspecious right off. This is pure oddity.

Categorically, none of the people connected with Stumpy are in this for greed. That is not remotely their motivation. Rather, they are people who enjoy the sport of showing dogs and they play at a very high level. True, they spend a lot of money, but it’s how they chose to spend what they’ve earned. They could just as easily dabble in other sports, but showing dogs is their passion, and they do it well.

Elaine

02-11-2009, 06:07 PM

I remember at the Ft. Wayne shows when Reigny was there. I knew who she was before I picked up a catalog. She stands out....I knew Ann was there somewhere but she wasn't on Reigny at that time. The class dogs were still showing and this was ringside. "Ahhhh that's Reigny." I admit, I was a bit star struck so I just looked at her. It wasn't too hard to figure it out.

I would hope that any working group judge could figure out who she is....Now, a judge not forgetting who she is in the ring is the problem.

Perhaps she was the best Doberman that day. I wasn't there, and I am certainly not a judge so I cannot comment any further on her breed win. I will however offer a congrats.
The Working Group judge last night was the Dobe Breed judge at the Garden last year. She gave Reigny the breed last year. The judge knows Ann, Jim, Tony and the whole package, she likes the bitch, but you can only go so far.

In a perfect world C.J. should have been in that Dobe entry (but because Terry was on the judging panel, and Nancy backs C.J., C. J. was not shown at the Garden). Given what I saw in the Breed ring, if it were up to me, I would have put Andy on Sisterella and given her the Breed. http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp21/logresfarm/lol-1.gif

Btw, the Dobe Breed ring is on video at the link above on this thread.. you can see the entry for yourself.

andyhilt27

02-11-2009, 06:25 PM

I watched the video last night. I enjoyed it. You can only tell so much from a video.

To me, Reigny's movement was more off in the group than the breed. I will watch it again before evaluating any further.

I was not too thrilled about the Toy Fox Terrier shown in the group. I have yet to watch the breed so I don't know if he was the best selection.

Oh and thanks for answering the question I was afraid to ask.

Ok....I watched the Toy Fox Terriers two times. He was the best that was there that day. His body is built pretty well. His head leaves some to be desired. I am disappointed with the entries.

Elaine

02-11-2009, 07:05 PM

In addition to the video, you should cross reference Info dog or the catalog so you know who you are looking at. If you're watching the video to try to figure out who the dogs are, you're missing too much of the dog itself.

Many of us have seen most of these dogs in the past, even been in the ring with them... so we recognize most all of them on sight. When we see the video we are not so much studying the dog as observing the presentation and whether the dog is “on” in the ring on the day. For example, (and not to pick on poor Reigny, who is a lovely bitch, and, let's not forget, the full sister to Lil’ Claire’s mother :D), but she was not really on, she missed a few free stacks. Brucker’s bitch never had a free stack and never had her hocks perpendicular to the ground that I saw. The judge must have seen something else. How she walked Sisterella and Garbo I’ll never know.

andyhilt27

02-11-2009, 07:14 PM

In a perfect world C.J. should have been in that Dobe entry (but because Terry was on the judging panel, and Nancy backs C.J., C. J. was not shown at the Garden).

Who is C.J., Terry, and Nancy? I assume C.J. is a doberman....I can't decipher the rest. I tried, I really did.:D

Jan

02-11-2009, 07:39 PM

CJ is a nice sound bitch, shown by Carissa DeMilta, married now with a different last name. Sampino or something like that. She moves well, which tells you a lot about correctness, something many now a days tend to not care about, even though it is the standard that all are suppose to be judged by. Her backers are well known, and that gives her a good advantage. She did very well in Florida and we expect her to continue on, she has the right package to do so.
I had to add, that the right package isn't simply money, it's money with history, and connections. That's the way it's played.
Jan

Elaine

02-11-2009, 07:53 PM

Who is C.J., Terry, and Nancy? I assume C.J. is a doberman....I can't decipher the rest. I tried, I really did.:D

C.J. is CH ALLURE BLAZING STAR ALISATON. WS 16893005. 02-15-06 sired by Ch Imagemakers Hot Tropics - out of Ch Cinnakerry's Relentless. Bitch. Owner: Nancy Bosley & Julie Porter & Carmen Pitts., Cary, NC 275199283. Breeder: Carmen Pitts & Gwen Demilta. (Carissa DeMilta Shimpeno, PHA, Agent).

Terry is Ms. Theresa L. Hundt of Newtown, CT. Terry judged Akitas, Boxers, Great Pyrenees, St Bernards, Greater Swiss Mountain Dogs, Anatolian Shepherd Dogs and Bernese Mountain Dog at the Garden this year. Nancy Bosley is Terry's companion... and the backer of C.J. Since Terry was on the panel, C.J was not shown at the Garden (though she was entered). This was a rather commendable decision for C.J.s people to make. How many of us would have done the same? Score one for integrity.

We had a DSSN thread with the Florida circuit results which had C.J going head-to-head with Reigny... C.J. came away on top by a wide margin. Other phrases that come to mind are, "she kicked ass" ... "cleaned their clock" ... "blew them away" .. dominated the competition"... "won going away" ... "kicked them to the curb" ... or the old stand-by, "she did rather well." Here is a link to the thread http://dogshownewsnetwork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=681

Elaine

02-11-2009, 09:15 PM

Before this thread drifts away… might be nice to honor some of the really beautiful entries at the Garden this year. Goes without saying that the winners, including the Poodle, the Giant and the Scottie were all very very nice… but take a look at some of the other great dogs in the entry like Bill Shelton’s Pembroke - BIS CH. Coventry Vanity Fair - in the breed ring. True, it wasn’t her best Westminster, but she is still one beautiful show dog, more than deserving of her wonderful career. http://video.westminsterkennelclub.org/player/?id=1004161 The Sealy CH EFBE'S HIDALGO AT GOODSPICE was lovely too, though maybe a tad past her prime. http://video.westminsterkennelclub.org/player/?id=1004341

doberdogsfd

02-11-2009, 10:55 PM

From the hound Group, the Pharaoh Hound. I just love the dog and that expression. We think seriously of having one.
Folks, did you see the Greyhound from Italy? Stunning. She just floated past the screen with an air of dignity and grace...beatutiful!
I am completely mad for the Mini Bull Terrier. She was wonderful to watch, like she was having the time of her life.

I have promised Bob a Mini Bull for a pocket pet. We both love them but he has always wanted a little dog like that. I love them because they are so sturdy and silly!

I am sure I can think of a few more wonderful dogs...the Saluki and of course and from our breed, Garbo. She is the icing on the cake for me.

Cheryl

Kissntell

02-12-2009, 02:54 AM

But wouldn't it be nice if the dog show world were a level playing ground? That's why I haven't been as active as I would have dreamed.

Jan you are correct...money, history and connections.

So really why should a small guy waste money on entires? That's sort of where I'm at right now. But once you have owned something nice its hard to go back.

I guess I play Little League Baseball and they play pro.

Elaine

02-12-2009, 06:00 AM

Hulu.com has the Westminster telecast, from both 2008 and 2009. Not sure how long the video will be there, but it's there now.

www.hulu.com

Did you notice that three of the most competitive dogs in the Best In Show lineup were docked, cropped or both: the Giant Schnauzer is cropped and docked; the Poodle is docked and the Brussels Griffon is docked and cropped. These dogs were highly touted to win, none did. Given that the American Veterinary Medical Association is now openly opposed to cropping and docking, do you think that played in to the judging? The Best in Show dog is a media darling for the year, serving as an ambassador for our sport. Having to discuss cropping and docking during all the media events the Best In Show dog participates in over the year would have been problematic at best. Do you think that played in to anything?

Oops! Just read the Sussex Spaniel Breed Standard, seems that the breed has a docked tail. Can't say as that I ever noticed. :p

And here is the burning question in my mind, what will it take for the Golden Retriever to go Best In Show at the Garden? http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp21/logresfarm/lol-1.gif